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Post by revjohn on Feb 23, 2014 18:02:52 GMT -8
Jesus’ proclamation that, “There is no such thing as sin...” is a particularly challenging idea. Sin and forgiveness are major doctrines in most Christian faith systems today. What exactly is he saying?
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Post by lindalewandosky on Feb 24, 2014 17:41:49 GMT -8
For me, I think sin is going against *your* nature; of trying to force a round peg into your square life. So, if you're living your life as you were called to do, then you are blameless.
I don't want to think that some Christian faith systems like to use Sin and Forgiveness as a vehicle to control the masses, but well, I do.
I had thought long and hard on this question but had coupled it with the next about adultery. Pulling it apart is making it fresh and new for me. I think this will be one of many topics on my mind this week!
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Post by lpa on Feb 25, 2014 5:31:25 GMT -8
"There is no such thing as sin..."
I would not start with the clarification on what sin actually is, although by the end of my post it will seem I was trying to. I would ask a question: Who the judge is? Because even we, as humans cannot agree, most of the time, what the sin is, for something can be a mortal sin for one but natural thing for other. Or at least well justified so not to be a sin. The look at the Judge, I think is more important. And how something that we deem to be a sin, morphs before is laid before the Logos for judgment.
So, really, what is or might be the relation of the "Judge who has the right to judge", and what we think a sin might be?
Our actions, however bad and hurtful they might be, do not affect the spheres of higher existence, for we can only act in this world. We can hurt people, we can even kill people and other living things, we can wrong, we can lie, we can develop a whole pallet of characteristics which in turn might oppose the ways of life some could find exemplary or good, at different degrees.
The pain of the sin is very personal and exists as long as the affected are alive. We can remember somebody else’s actions, but we will not feel the implications of those actions if we were not affected directly by them in some way. The feeling of "sinful action" is relatively short lived, and above all. As I said before - relative.
What is absolute? The Judge, the Logos. For the absolute source of life, love and everything else, it is not impossible to forgive in perpetuity. And this is the ONLY thing which is given to us to perform and practice in the same way as God does. The gift of forgiveness. We are not to judge, but we are to forgive. For there is no sin. Only the love matters (but we are not given the gift to love as God does, do not confuse this.). Everything else is in discordance with the basic principles of God. And we want to imitate God, we want to become God. Without ultimate and unquestionable forgiveness - we will not succeed.
LPA
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